When you set up a self-managed super fund, you must set up a new bank account for the SMSF. When you set up a new SMSF with Grow, you can choose to receive information about the Macquarie Cash Management Account (CMA). Some features of the Macquarie CMA are:
You are not obligated to use the Macquarie CMA to use the services of Grow SMSF. Grow is not recommending the Macquarie CMA. We only provide information and assistance with the application when you specifically instruct us to do so. Refer to our Advice Disclaimer for more information. You can choose to use any suitable cash account for your SMSF, however the choice of account will impact the service provided by Grow and therefor could impact the fees you pay.
One common question in regards to the set up of an SMSF is “How much super do you need to set up an SMSF?”. The answer is simple: It depends! Importantly, there is no SMSF minimum balance required by the ATO. Where the ATO has information showing the total super balances of the SMSF members is under $50,000, the likelihood of the ATO auditing the SMSF application increases significantly. Based on outdated information from ASIC, some industry and retail super funds will say that you need at least $500,000 for an SMSF. This is incorrect and not supported by independent research. SMSF research by the University of Adelaide released in February 2022 found “the performance of a typical SMSF improves as the balance of the fund approaches $200,000. Once this threshold is reached, the performance of the fund is comparable with SMSFs with much larger balances.” One approach when looking at how much money you need to set up an SMSF is to compare fees. On average, large APRA-regulated superannuation funds will charge 1.10% of your balance. This is based on information collated by Canstar as of 14/04/2020. Using this approach, if your SMSF is paying $1,375 per year in SMSF fees, then a super balance approaching $155,000 will make the costs similar. Remember, an SMSF can have up to 6 members, and you only pay one lot of fees per SMSF – so sharing costs with your partner is an excellent SMSF advantage. SMSFs provide access to investments that no other super product can, such as direct property, cryptocurrency and unlisted private investments. Therefore the most significant cost of an SMSF is the cost of NOT HAVING AN SMSF and missing out on the greatest investment opportunities. Please note the above is general information only and should not be relied upon as personal financial advice.
There are many differences if you were to compare Grow SMSF to low-cost online-only service providers available. We recommend anyone comparing SMSF service providers look at the following as part of their research:
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is readily available during business hours (AEST). Check to see whether other providers have a phone number you can call to speak to a human.The above is not a comprehensive list. Take a look at our esuperfund review to find more specific information on comparing Grow SMSF to other service providers.
The fee to set up an SMSF is normally paid by the members, and then once the SMSF is setup and bank account open with funds received from contributions or transfers, the member can be reimbursed for the SMSF setup costs. If the cost of setting up the SMSF is not repaid from the self-managed super fund bank account to the member, then it can be recorded in the SMSF accounts as a contribution and technically the SMSF member can claim a personal tax deduction for that contribution. Grow doesn’t enable you to setup an SMSF without paying the upfront establishment fee. Most people choose to pay the fee via credit card and then reimburse themselves in 2-3 weeks once the SMSF has received transfers of existing super.
Another thing that can delay your SMSF setup are delays with transferring your super to your SMSF. Check with your existing super fund what their ID and verification requirements are and start getting them ready for your transfer. Retail and industry super funds are allowed to request your ID and a bank statement to verify the SMSF bank account for payment. Some funds demand original physical copies of certified ID. You can send ID to your super fund BEFORE you request a transfer so they’re on file. Grow assists with the transfer process and certification of ID.
The set-up fees for a new SMSF are as follows:
Grow SMSF intentionally DOES NOT offer ‘FREE’ SMSF establishment to ensure we provide you with the best possible upfront support and service you deserve. You can set up a new SMSF with Grow here: Set up an SMSF Please note that Grow’s SMSF setup service is ‘execution only’. This means we only undertake the SMSF setup process under your instruction. When you setup an SMSF with Grow you receive a written statement that confirms that Grow is not licensed to provide financial product advice under the Corporations Act and that you should consider taking advice from an AFS licensee before making a decision about a product.
The following can be used as your SMSF setup checklist.
Grow SMSF guides you through the SMSF setup process and is there to help you with any questions you have!
No. The cost to setup an SMSF is not tax deductible. The SMSF setup costs are non-deductible expenses according to the ATO. The fee to set up an SMSF is normally paid by the members, and then once the SMSF is setup and bank account open with funds received from contributions or transfers, the member can be reimbursed for the SMSF setup costs. If the cost of setting up the SMSF is not repaid from the self-managed super fund bank account to the member, then it can be recorded in the SMSF accounts as a contribution and technically the SMSF member can claim a personal tax deduction for that contribution.